Really Friendly Lady That Laughed Too Much: Are you guys excited?
Me: Actually, I really am. If someone had told me one year ago that I would not only be going to a Michael Moore flick, but going on opening night and excited about it I would have told them they were nuts.
RFLTLTM: Really, why is that?
Me: Moore has a tendency to play loose with the facts. I think it is important for people on the left to not resort to the tactics that people on the right have used because then we lose credibility. More importantly, we don't need to stretch the facts because the case against...
What to say? The argument over the film mostly seems to revolve around whether it's factually accurate and presents a logical case, a conversation so pointless as to be laughable. I mean, it's a polemical film from Michael Moore, not a Brookings Institution white paper. It's like complaining that editorial cartoons are unfair because they don't portray the nuance of serious policy discussions.
Now, as it happens, I thought Fahrenheit 9/11 was a bit mediocre even as polemic, but the thing that really struck me about the film was the almost poetic parallellism between its own slanders and cheap shots and the slanders and cheap shots of pro-war supporters themselves over the past couple of years. If Moore had done this deliberately, it would have been worthy of Henry James.
Take the first half hour of the film, in which Moore exposes the close relationship between the Bush family and the House of Saud. Sure, it relies mostly on innuendo and imagery, but then again, he never really makes the case anyway. He never flat out says that the Bush family is on the Saudi payroll. Rather, he simply includes "9/11," "Bush," and "Saudi Arabia" in as many sentences as possible, thus leaving the distinct impression that George Bush is a bought and paid for subsidiary of the Saudi royal family.
Which is all remarkably similar to the tactic Bush himself used to link Saddam Hussein to 9/11. He never flat out blamed Saddam, but rather made sure to include the words "9/11," "Saddam Hussein," and "al-Qaeda" in as many sentences as possible, thus leaving the distinct impression that Saddam had something to do with it.
Or take Afghanistan. In a lengthy and nearly unreadable screed in Slate, Christopher Hitchens takes Moore to task for arguing in 2002 that the war in Afghanistan was unjust but then arguing in the film that Iraq was a distraction from the real war against al-Qaeda in Afghanistan.
But surely I'm not the only one who's reminded by this of the ever shifting rationales for war from the Bush administration itself? In 2002 it was mostly about WMD. But there was no WMD. So then it became al-Qaeda. But there were no serious al-Qaeda ties. How about liberation? Maybe, except the Iraqis don't seem especially happy with their liberators. Democracy? Stay tuned.
Finally, the last half hour of the film includes a piece of street theater in which Moore accosts congressmen on Capitol Hill and asks if they'll try to get their sons and daughters to enlist in the military. It's a brutally unfair question, but one that echoes a standard debating point of Hitchens and others: "Would you prefer that Saddam Hussein was still in power?" It's a question that's unanswerable in 10 words or less, and about as meaningful as Moore's ambush interviews with congressmen.
So is Fahrenheit 9/11 unfair, full of innuendo and cheap shots, and guilty of specious arguments? Sure. But that just makes it the perfect complement to the arguments of many in the pro-war crowd itself. Perhaps the reason they're so mad is that they see more than a little of themselves in it.
Moore is a very specific and slippery kind of bully: He glides along on his underdog status as if it were a parade float. He professes to feel great compassion for the common man. Yet over and over again, in movie after movie, he invites the audience to chuckle over ordinary people. Why? In "Fahrenheit 9/11" he lists the countries that stepped forward as members of Bush's Coalition of the Willing (Palau, Costa Rica, Iceland, Romania, Morocco, and the Netherlands among them), accompanied by funny stock footage of people in costumes of many lands. If Moore is the left's great spokesman by default, shouldn't he be using his influence (not to mention his money) to raise the level of political discourse in this country instead of lowering it? Instead we have a filmmaker who manages the feat of getting liberal audiences to laugh at how funny those foreigners are.
• My memory is always notoriously unreliable (I'm just grateful that you confirmed for me that there really WAS an obnoxious lady there) and I was using her as a device to launch into my larger point.
I certainly agree that it was "less than rigorous in adhering to academic standards of argumentation", but this is a medium that is never held to that high of a standard (much like the nightly news). Yes, we should be willing to be critical of anything , but there is something inherently wrong when these arguments are only brought forth when it comes to a piece like this. It seems like when the partisans on the other side found that there were no strong factual flaws to bitch about, they fell back on the only argument that was left to them. I hope that the majority of the main stream left doesn't just follow suit without pointing this out.
One thing that was running through my head that I forgot to add in the post was that a better argument that could be made of the Saudi connection is that Saudi money is definately a bipartisan phenomenon (although not in equal degrees). I don't think that this fact exonerates Bush in any way, and we never see any kind of right-wing editorial that would go out of its way to say that "our side does it too". So again, we end up talking about a point that, though legitimate, is only being brought up because it is a last resort and would not even come up if more valid criticisms that were available.
• Moore himself has described it as a "satirical documentary" and fully admits it is not an attempt to be fair. It is the story of the last three years as he sees it. This seems reasonable to me. It may very well be in a different catagory than others. I should mention, though, that most of the documentaries I have seen do come with a point of view (maybe less so the nature documentaries) although they may be more subtle. I don't see any large factual problems with the film.
Do you think that we held "The Revolution Will Not Be Televised" to the same standard that as this one and, if not, is that just because so much more info is available on this one?